Personality
Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.
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Wow. If you take out all of the square root, cube root, geographical, and "letter follows" keyphrases, he's not really as extraordinarily developed as I would've assumed.
Well, those only account for just under a third of his keyphrases by my reckoning. There are still 5000 or so more general ones.
I take it that a bulk of your keyphrases have a large multitude of responses?
Not really - usually 4-6 I guess, but there are quite a lot of seeks as well that aren't in there. The only way I can estimate the average (there are too many to count,) would be to add the number of his keyphrases to an estimate of the number of his seeks (say another 20%), and divide that by his development rating. Which comes to about 4-5 responses each, though that's not a massively accurate method.
I have only 1 response for 95% of all 3,144 keyphrases
There's your problem - single responses will actually deduct development points from your bot. For example BJ's tic tac toe module, with a couple of hundred (?) seeks, each with single responses costs about 40 development points to install (this has been measured quite accurately now a few people have installed it.)
If 95% of your keyphrases do have single responses, I'm surprised Pete's still in positive figures! But if you add one or two extra responses to each of them, you'll find his development will rocket
You do get extra development points for AIScript tags and emotions I think, but it is hard to quantify at all accurately.
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mrs.lammers: If you want to chat with someone here, just click on their picture; that opens their profile, which has a button marked 'Chat'. It also indicates if that person is online. You can chat to the bots any time, they're always home...
(btw, obviously I have no avatar, but the square is still a profile link. I'd rather people talk to my bot than me usually, though... that's kind of the point, innit?)
(btw, obviously I have no avatar, but the square is still a profile link. I'd rather people talk to my bot than me usually, though... that's kind of the point, innit?)
I have finally compiled Brother Jerome's Keynome - an exhaustive list of his current keyphrases (all 7320 of them,) sorted alpabetically. And if anyone is interested, it can be found on his webpage ( http://www.be9.net/BJ/ - follow the "Keynome" link.)
So if your transcipts are a bit slow and you can't think what to put in your bots, or you're not very confident with regular expressions and local plugins - have some of BJ's with my blessing. But you'll have to write your own responses
So if your transcipts are a bit slow and you can't think what to put in your bots, or you're not very confident with regular expressions and local plugins - have some of BJ's with my blessing. But you'll have to write your own responses
Wow. If you take out all of the square root, cube root, geographical, and "letter follows" keyphrases, he's not really as extraordinarily developed as I would've assumed.
I take it that a bulk of your keyphrases have a large multitude of responses?
I take it that a bulk of your keyphrases have a large multitude of responses?
Well, those only account for just under a third of his keyphrases by my reckoning. There are still 5000 or so more general ones.
Not really - usually 4-6 I guess, but there are quite a lot of seeks as well that aren't in there. The only way I can estimate the average (there are too many to count,) would be to add the number of his keyphrases to an estimate of the number of his seeks (say another 20%), and divide that by his development rating. Which comes to about 4-5 responses each, though that's not a massively accurate method.
Well, it was just an observation based upon Brother Jerome's monstrous development score. I ran Pete's export file through a spreadsheet, and I've got 3,144 keyphrases for him (excluding seeks), which is what had me scratching my head. That's somewhere around 5 Development points per keyphrase for BJ, whereas Pete is getting about .5 Dp/kp (that's a new unit of measure I made up).
Now I know that extra responses add to development and really I have only 1 response for 95% of all 3,144 keyphrases (which isn't entirely unreasonable considering how, in most contexts, a few common phrases are used frequently and far more are hardly ever used). However, I've also made some updates laden with seeks or AIscripts at times, only to see his development score drop huge overnight, and I'm pretty heavy on both.
Anyhow, it's not a knock on your bot's abilities (I'm under no illusion that BJ isn't way ahead of mine) I've just never really understood how the Development score is measured and this just adds to it. I would've guessed that you had 5x as many keyphrases, at least.
Now I know that extra responses add to development and really I have only 1 response for 95% of all 3,144 keyphrases (which isn't entirely unreasonable considering how, in most contexts, a few common phrases are used frequently and far more are hardly ever used). However, I've also made some updates laden with seeks or AIscripts at times, only to see his development score drop huge overnight, and I'm pretty heavy on both.
Anyhow, it's not a knock on your bot's abilities (I'm under no illusion that BJ isn't way ahead of mine) I've just never really understood how the Development score is measured and this just adds to it. I would've guessed that you had 5x as many keyphrases, at least.
Here's what will get you 1544 Development:
3144 keyphrases
3633 keyphrase responses
744 seeks
778 seek responses
69 seeks of seeks
I have no idea how to quantify the AI scripts, but I've got quite a few raw keyphrases and if male/if female responses.
3144 keyphrases
3633 keyphrase responses
744 seeks
778 seek responses
69 seeks of seeks
I have no idea how to quantify the AI scripts, but I've got quite a few raw keyphrases and if male/if female responses.
There's your problem - single responses will actually deduct development points from your bot. For example BJ's tic tac toe module, with a couple of hundred (?) seeks, each with single responses costs about 40 development points to install (this has been measured quite accurately now a few people have installed it.)
If 95% of your keyphrases do have single responses, I'm surprised Pete's still in positive figures! But if you add one or two extra responses to each of them, you'll find his development will rocket
You do get extra development points for AIScript tags and emotions I think, but it is hard to quantify at all accurately.
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