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The weekend after Thanksgiving nearly always has horrible driving weather (at least in these parts). Since I've started keeping track, it's been bad 75% of the time. But the snow sure makes everything pretty!
Spectacular video documentation of Leeds intelligence (or lack there of)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8212038174455494428
(courtesy of google video)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8212038174455494428
(courtesy of google video)
A Leeds Festival!?!? The mind boggles! I think in this usage 'Festival' must be some sort of synonym for 'Culture'. As in mould culture.
Presumably 'Devvo' is short for 'Devolved'.
Presumably 'Devvo' is short for 'Devolved'.
Ouch.. I think I just felt my IQ drop drastically.. I'm pretty sure I'm dumber for having watched that. And do we even know what the Leeds Festival is about anyways?!
Oh dear oh dear oh dear...I had the strange impulse to find out who Devvon is, since he seems to be such the hero of Leedsfest, so I googled Devvo. It seems he has videos on a site called "fatpie.com" Without thinking, I went to the main site. It is not about the joys of cherry cobbler. I don't know what Devvon does, but we should probably avoid his videos.
fat-pie.com isn't Devvo's site (let's face it, he'd have about as much chance of writing a website as a a slug would. Even if he could stay off the drugs long enough.) But there's a biography and explanation via the "Devvo" link (http://www.fat-pie.com/chavs.htm)
"Devvo is Darren Devonshire, a "chav" from the Doncaster/Hull area. Devvo lets me follow him around and film his life in exchange for cigarettes, alcohol and small change."
Kinda reminds me of those documentaries you see about zoologists studying gorillas (though that's probably an over-compliment in Devvo's case.) An interesting bit of social anthropology it may be, but not for the squeamish.
He seems to have something of a fan club athttp://f-ram.net/fat-pie/viewtopic.php?t=9025 that's probably not for the faint-hearted (photos)
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Kinda reminds me of those documentaries you see about zoologists studying gorillas (though that's probably an over-compliment in Devvo's case.) An interesting bit of social anthropology it may be, but not for the squeamish.
He seems to have something of a fan club at
Hmm - I guess it's because he's from Doncaster, rather than Leeds, that he's capable of a nominally transactional relationship (filming in exchange for cigs, drink and small change.)
At least on par with some vertebrates, but it's hard to imagine true Leeds organisms being capable of such complex behaviour.
At least on par with some vertebrates, but it's hard to imagine true Leeds organisms being capable of such complex behaviour.
I read some of the comments on Evvo and Chavs (I followed the link to chavscum or whatever it was called). It made me sad. It seems like adults are able to spot "Chavs" and note the lack of education, adult supervision, and meaning in these kids lives, but all the adults seem to do is make fun of the kids.
I can understand the anger at being robbed or asked for money (and I know most of the Chav-haters are not that old either) but I still think is a shame to devote so much time to being nasty to Chavs. I know you can only try to help one kid at a time, and that most of these kids won't flock to sports or job programs even if such things are offered, but they are still kids (annoying kids, but kids). There should be something better to do than post their pictures on the Internet and make fun of them.
Some of the high school students I taught could sound ignorant at times (especially if they were high) but they each had a story when you got to know them. They weren't all saints, but they derserve a little respect.
Also, as much as I dislike some of the Leeds kids here, there are a few I've chatted with that are actually nice.
On a related note, what do you think of stores that use annoying high pitched noises to keep teens away?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/29/international/europe/29repellent.html
I can understand the anger at being robbed or asked for money (and I know most of the Chav-haters are not that old either) but I still think is a shame to devote so much time to being nasty to Chavs. I know you can only try to help one kid at a time, and that most of these kids won't flock to sports or job programs even if such things are offered, but they are still kids (annoying kids, but kids). There should be something better to do than post their pictures on the Internet and make fun of them.
Some of the high school students I taught could sound ignorant at times (especially if they were high) but they each had a story when you got to know them. They weren't all saints, but they derserve a little respect.
Also, as much as I dislike some of the Leeds kids here, there are a few I've chatted with that are actually nice.
On a related note, what do you think of stores that use annoying high pitched noises to keep teens away?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/29/international/europe/29repellent.html
The Leeds kids probably aren't all chavs. Chavs are not just kids, they're a particular group of British society, approximately equivalent to the American "trailer trash".
Wikipedia defines a chav as "a subcultural stereotype of a person with fashions such as flashy "bling" jewelry and counterfeit designer clothes, an uneducated, impoverished background, a tendency to congregate around places such as fast-food outlets or other shopping areas and a culture of antisocial behaviour." The article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
In Scotland we don't have chavs, we have neds, who are similar but slightly more violent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_%28Scottish%29
Wikipedia defines a chav as "a subcultural stereotype of a person with fashions such as flashy "bling" jewelry and counterfeit designer clothes, an uneducated, impoverished background, a tendency to congregate around places such as fast-food outlets or other shopping areas and a culture of antisocial behaviour." The article is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
In Scotland we don't have chavs, we have neds, who are similar but slightly more violent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_%28Scottish%29
Bev: you're right of course - we should probably be more charitable towards even Leeds kids: they are the real victims. But I'm afraid it's largely despair. We are a long way down the road of cultural disintegration in this country, and education has effectively collapsed as a means of instilling any sense of community or social responsibility in this generation (and indeed probably more than one generation.) Teachers can have their careers destroyed for preventing children stabbing each other, packs of feral truants roam the streets burgling, mugging, raping and occasionally murdering, and if you protect yourself in your home against armed thieves, you can be prosecuted for assault. No wonder a recent survey showed that over 50% of the British population would like to emigrate. And no wonder we lead the 'civilized' world in underage pregnancy, STDs, drug use, alcoholism and bankruptcy.
We are ruled by a corrupt political elite who hate us and our culture, and will stop at nothing to destroy any vestiges of decency and self-respect they can find, in their thirst for eternal political domination. I'm just waiting for Blair to have himself crowned as Emperor and living God and do away with the whole 'democratic' charade.
Does that sound extreme? Probably. But it doesn't stop it being essentially accurate.
We are ruled by a corrupt political elite who hate us and our culture, and will stop at nothing to destroy any vestiges of decency and self-respect they can find, in their thirst for eternal political domination. I'm just waiting for Blair to have himself crowned as Emperor and living God and do away with the whole 'democratic' charade.
Does that sound extreme? Probably. But it doesn't stop it being essentially accurate.
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