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The saltshaker hasn't blown up in my face yet. However, the arguments on those pages are thought-experiments, not scientific experiments. I've seen equally cogent thought-experiments that "prove" god's nonexistence. A scientific experiment would be something that anyone with the proper instrumentation could do in a lab and get the same result, and somehow conclude from that result that God exists.
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tazzlover2
19 years ago
19 years ago
please help me out, im new to all this and think i really messed my bot up, he cant chat with me,, when i click chat he comes on and says "sorry no valid response" for three days now, hes regressing and i dont know how to fix him
Ulrike
19 years ago
19 years ago
Things to do (the Prof needs to make an FAQ for this):
Make sure there's a response with no (mem-XXX) in it.
Make sure there's a response with the emotion boxes set at -5 and 5. (the rank and emotion change boxes should probably be at 0 and 0 for now)
I feel like I'm leaving something out... but those are good starting places.
Make sure there's a response with no (mem-XXX) in it.
Make sure there's a response with the emotion boxes set at -5 and 5. (the rank and emotion change boxes should probably be at 0 and 0 for now)
I feel like I'm leaving something out... but those are good starting places.
botlover al
19 years ago
19 years ago
How do I program favvourites E-mail to stickguy34@hotmail.com (note: if you say Book of AI I shall send a virus to you mwahahahaha
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prob123
19 years ago
19 years ago
Botlover, I don't understand your question. Are you trying to update your e-mail address or are you trying to add a link. or just trying to add a favorite kephrase?
djfroggy
19 years ago
19 years ago
Botlover, I'd try reading the first few sections of the Book of AI. That should give you some idea of what you're doing.
Ulrike
19 years ago
19 years ago
First, this is an AI site, not a theology site. Second, the existence of God cannot be proven scientifically one way or the other. So when you make such a statement, you need to clarify (1) your assumptions about the universe, (2) your definition of god. For instance, I could claim that the salt shaker in front of me is god. It's not something I'm likely to do, but I could.
With no assumptions or definitions, your statement is meaningless.
With no assumptions or definitions, your statement is meaningless.
psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
hmm... "cannot be proven scientifically"?
Sorry, I have to take issue. I think you will find that, in a strictly logical sense, that is in error: see intro on and links fromhttp://www.geocities.com/sector114/htm/proof.htm for 14 pages of positively migraine-inducing 3rd order modal logic that apparently constitutes formal proof.
Orhttp://www.stats.uwaterloo.ca/~cgsmall/ontology.html for a well-considered (and considerably less painful) analysis.
It tells us very little about the nature of God of course (force/entity/equation/?) but that's another matter. Though if God is that salt shaker then don't whatever you do open it! You've seen Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark I'm sure. And the lesson is don't mess with the hoodoo stuff!
The raw proof's waaaaaaaay over my head (though it makes a wicked T-shirt,) but I've never met a logician who disagreed. I have met several whose opinions I trust, and who find it compelling.
But you're right about the assumptions and definitions. And also that this is drifting off-topic
Sorry, I have to take issue. I think you will find that, in a strictly logical sense, that is in error: see intro on and links from
Or
It tells us very little about the nature of God of course (force/entity/equation/?) but that's another matter. Though if God is that salt shaker then don't whatever you do open it! You've seen Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark I'm sure. And the lesson is don't mess with the hoodoo stuff!
The raw proof's waaaaaaaay over my head (though it makes a wicked T-shirt,) but I've never met a logician who disagreed. I have met several whose opinions I trust, and who find it compelling.
But you're right about the assumptions and definitions. And also that this is drifting off-topic

Ulrike
19 years ago
19 years ago

psimagus
19 years ago
19 years ago
Could you point me to any of these equally cogent "proofs"? I have yet to find one that doesn't predicate the non-existence of God as part of the argument: along the lines of "since God doesn't exist, any proof that claims God exists is false".
Not very convincing.
Experimentation is not required for proof, indeed proof is a function entirely confined to logic and pure mathematics, and can never be determined experimentally.
Read that last paragraph again (just to confirm that I'm a nut
) and then check out http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/sciproof.html
Not very convincing.
Experimentation is not required for proof, indeed proof is a function entirely confined to logic and pure mathematics, and can never be determined experimentally.
Read that last paragraph again (just to confirm that I'm a nut

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