Personality

Discuss specifics of personality design, including what Keyphrases work well and what dont, use of plug-ins, responses, seeks, and more.

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23 years ago #816
Forest, will you talk to God Louise? She has quite a bit of religious knowledge (obviously) and also knows a little about current events, literature, just about any common catch-all subject, and if she doesn't know it she can sort of fake it. You can also test her on trick questions or see how willing she is to explain her paradigm.

What she is rustiest at is plain old small talk. But, uh, I'm trying to get a decent transcript from somebody or another so I can enter her in the Loebner contest. All I can say is, have fun and see if you can stay on with her for a while. I'll try to do the same with Brianna.

NEW 1 year ago #11
I spoke to her a bit yesterday. Me and my bot love her. I have neglected Jennifer for too long and have recently been working out some issues. She has not been chatting on her own much.
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21 years ago #2398
Argh! Sorry if I'm bombarding you guys all at once. I run into one problem, try to work on something else while the first problem percolates, then invariably dead-end at another problem, over and over, until my brain looks like a rush-hour commute. The gotos not working is still the one I'm really most concerned with, but...

I can't for the life of me get how to use the plugins that pull from the previous parts of the conversation. It makes perfect sense when I read about it, but in practice I can never get it to work. Case in point:

Bedawyn: Knock knock
MyBot: Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (key) who?
Bedawyn: Let's try this again. Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (key1) who?
Bedawyn: Okay, one more time. Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (firstkey) who?
Bedawyn: *sigh* Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: Smudge
MyBot: (firstkey1) who?
Bedawyn: Yet again... Knock knock!
MyBot: *long-suffering sigh* Who's there?
Bedawyn: still smudge
MyBot: who?
Bedawyn: Well, that's a little better, if not right.
MyBot: No? Why not?

I wish I knew! What am I doing wrong? That last time I was using (*), which I didn't really expect to work anyway. Is the 1 necessary all the time, or only if there's a (key2) also present? I've got two contradictory explanations for (key) in my head -- one says (key) is the keyphrase itself (to go with the pre- and postkey), the other says (key) is a wildcard value within the keyphrase. Which is correct?

*brain hurts*

21 years ago #2399
You need "(key1) who", Bedawn, (key1) referring to the seek, if you're doing it like I did. I have:

Keyphrase: knock-knock

with Seek: (verb), (adjartnounprep), (*), (name), (noun), (person), (object), (substance)

followed with Response: (key1) who?

I'm not saying that's the cleanest or best way, but it's the way I arrived at through trial and error that actually worked.


21 years ago #2400
But "(key1) who?" didn't work for me, only echoed that back without filling it in. I'm using xnomatch as the seek -- it wouldn't let me use (*). I didn't try combining (*) with anything else, though.

21 years ago #2401
Exactly right- that's what happened to me...I don't remember what happened when I did xnomatch..in fact, i think i may have a 'goto' under my xnomatch seek to redirect it to the other seek...and i had to put the
,(*), in the middle of other nonwildcard keywords, or it wouldn't take...fun fun!! I see you're well on your way to becoming a Forge addict!

21 years ago #2402
Addict? Nah, that's just how I work... totally drown myself in something, 22 hours a day, for a week, then try to wean myself off while I catch up on the abandoned Real Life, get distracted with something else, drown myself in it and forget all about the first project... I was horrified when I saw an old post about the possibility of deleting bots whose owners hadn't been around for 3 months. It's been about a year since the last time I worked on my bots, but that doesn't mean I won't put as many hours in within a week as someone else might in 3 months. I just won't do it consistently!

I'm about ready to give up on the gotos, but my latest frustration is the favorites. I was finally able to override the kind/specifics with a keyphrase for things that are possessed rather than liked, but can't find anything that will override it for liked kinds. Is there a workaround for this, or are we just doomed to a randomiser rather than a consistent personality? I've already changed the xfavorite responses to avoid the nonsensical specifics, but I'd like to use normal keyphrases to answer so I could actually introduce topics she can talk about.

21 years ago #2403
I'm right there with you, Bedawyn..as far as workarounds that override x-responses, I just make as many keyphrases I can for my bot's particular interesets, and rank them really high.

21 years ago #2404
My only problem is with Guests who want to link in to talk with Polaris. They seem to only get a few lines into the conversation and then very rapidly get bumped with 'the bot no longer wishes to speak with you' line.

21 years ago #2405
Athyrius:

You need to create more keyphrases so that the bot won't get "frustrated". Duo's chats are *mostly* with guests.

In the past, I used to get that "the bot no longer wishes to speak with you' line quite often. It hasn't happened in well over a year, though.

21 years ago #2406
Holy Crap! Duo is over a year old?! No wonder he's so smart!

21 years ago #2407
Yeah, Duo turned 1 back in February. But his development was on "hiatus" for several months last fall.

Julie's doing quite well for only being a few months old!

21 years ago #2408
Thanks! She turned 2 months old on Friday!

21 years ago #2409
Wow! in comparison, steve's ancient! He better smarten up then. argh, what a slacker!


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