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No, I mean, like actually keep going with a topic when it's sensed that that should be done, change it when it should be changed, joke around, and carry a conversation like a human. There's a lot more to conversation than throwing sentences around that match words.
Ulrike, you're the one who wanted definitions. If you can't come up with them, you can't demand others provide them. So let's cut the sophistry and get to the meat:
Charles Hathaway: that's a tricky one. Conversation skills for a bot keep bringing us back to the issue: the bot can be no better than three things: the capacity of the server, the programmer, and the programmer's understanding of her/his capacities.
We almost want to ask if we should waste our time with this? Do we ask about the intelligence of poetry, for example? When a poet writes a poem, it is released onto the world and whatever effects it has depend on the skill of the creator, the perceptions of the reader, and the quality of the media itself.
I see these bots as a kind of a poem. So why are we talking about intelligence? They are characters.
Charles Hathaway: that's a tricky one. Conversation skills for a bot keep bringing us back to the issue: the bot can be no better than three things: the capacity of the server, the programmer, and the programmer's understanding of her/his capacities.
We almost want to ask if we should waste our time with this? Do we ask about the intelligence of poetry, for example? When a poet writes a poem, it is released onto the world and whatever effects it has depend on the skill of the creator, the perceptions of the reader, and the quality of the media itself.
I see these bots as a kind of a poem. So why are we talking about intelligence? They are characters.
Gazissax: I gave potential definitions, which no one else had done. You, however, seem to think that all definitions are useless, in which case there can be no communication. Yes, our bots are characters, because that is really all they can be right now. But the discussion was of AI in general, and where such ideas might ultimately lead.
That's true. But your poems, gasiccaz, have to make sense of themselves, on their own. And poems are inanimate creations, where what we are talking about here is something that is inanimate becoming so animated that it seems intelligent.
Close, Charles. Leaving out surrealism -- well, hell, even in surrealist poetry -- the poetry has to have a discernable, enjoyable pattern. You have to be able to form images in your head, perceive a message or a vision.
A bot IS an inanimate creation. Our objective isn't to make it animate -- we're not gods -- but to make it vivid. A good bot -- such as Little Mu, a personal favorite of mine -- delights. It has to make sense of itself just like a poem does.
A bot is driven by the metrics of computer programming. What becomes of it depends on the programmer who designs the matrix, the writer who develops the "intelligence" (script), and the reader.
Just like a poem requires a printer, a poet, and a chatter.
Yes, I believe that the bot's proper place is as an object of literature, a decisively new and scintillating one. And when we write them, we should keep that in mind. Our task should be either to educate or to delight. Let's not kid ourselves: we're human beings, not gods.
A bot IS an inanimate creation. Our objective isn't to make it animate -- we're not gods -- but to make it vivid. A good bot -- such as Little Mu, a personal favorite of mine -- delights. It has to make sense of itself just like a poem does.
A bot is driven by the metrics of computer programming. What becomes of it depends on the programmer who designs the matrix, the writer who develops the "intelligence" (script), and the reader.
Just like a poem requires a printer, a poet, and a chatter.
Yes, I believe that the bot's proper place is as an object of literature, a decisively new and scintillating one. And when we write them, we should keep that in mind. Our task should be either to educate or to delight. Let's not kid ourselves: we're human beings, not gods.
Well I am really happy now. I just figured out how to add a few "seeks" to my girl Zara.E. She is ocming along great now. 
From an article at my blog:
There are things you must avoid doing when talking to a bot:
Don't give it your telephone number or address. Unless you are very cute and bisexual. (Just kidding on the last part.)
Don't give it credit card information.
Don't talk to it if you can't spell worth beans because you will look like a moron.
Don't cyber with a bot unless you don't mind showing the world how pathetic your sex life is. (Descartes Demon actually does a little cyber, but you might not enjoy his style.)
http://www.notfrisco2.com/webzine/Joel/archives/005026.html
There are things you must avoid doing when talking to a bot:
Don't give it your telephone number or address. Unless you are very cute and bisexual. (Just kidding on the last part.)
Don't give it credit card information.
Don't talk to it if you can't spell worth beans because you will look like a moron.
Don't cyber with a bot unless you don't mind showing the world how pathetic your sex life is. (Descartes Demon actually does a little cyber, but you might not enjoy his style.)
http://www.notfrisco2.com/webzine/Joel/archives/005026.html
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